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There were so many very good questions I didn't answer in this video, both specific and broad. What many of them come down to is, "Is college worth the money" or "I feel like I'm being eaten alive by my student loans and I don't know if it was worth it."

The short answers is that, on average, college is very worth it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_N7MAr98CI

The long answer is that, as college gets more expensive, it becomes /less likely/ to be worth it every year. Which is why college needs to stop getting more expensive. And the only way that happens is if everyone gets a lot more price selective when picking schools.

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Doesnt matter what you will study and no one cares about skills... the point is to become a tax payer and finance the rich and their wars

1 hour ago

This is amazing. You're amazing. Vlogbrothers is amazing. Thank you so much.

7 hours ago

S/O to mah anthropologists!

8 hours ago

YES ANTHROPOLOGY changed my life too

10 hours ago

HANK AND OR JOHN. PLEASE TALK ABOUT GOING INTO JOURNALISM. THANKS.

11 hours ago

Oh Pat Rothfuss, you so silly...

11 hours ago

I feel like the concept of education/learning is more important than the notion of college/university. The only issue is institutions/workplaces only recognize a sticker that says you paid a lot of money and passed a test that sometimes has nothing to do with or doesn't help you learn more/better and quite often is not a proper representation of what was learned and retained. Learning however is something that should constantly be done for the reasons stated in this video, in this day and age it's easier than ever to get (minus the social experience) what you can from college online. I work in IT, and the fact that most jobs in this field do not require/are simply supplemented with a "formal higher education" shows how non-compulsory it really is. What we learn in college might be stuff we went there for, we might just not see this in our marks. Sometimes we learn stuff we didn't plan to learn there, sometimes it's just a messy soup of "I needa find my way because I live in a constant state of anxiety because I don't know what I'm doing". Honestly the environment of the classroom in college/universities I find incredibly hard to actually learn in, I need to engage with the teacher/classmates and actually experience/discuss what is being taught. Listening to constant lectures just makes me numb to anything else being taught.

11 hours ago

Posters in frames definitely equals "classy" - one of the first things I did when I was in college and had moved out of the dorms was by frames for my posters (some of which I still have in my now true adulting home)

14 hours ago

"More (inspiring) truth when it ("journalism was dying"), before the latter 2-3(?) year transition process and govermental selfcensored content propaganda. . Low quality A.i. created content, fake news, disruptive technologies, troubled IT systems, Hacks and psychogenic pain coding and other things made "me" stop reading."

It's the same with TV, nice classic movies (like face off. .) but the outlet wow, such a downturn. And smart tv realtime surveillence , with disruptive bugs. Selling of user history, without consent.

All platform (u.i) revisal down into sewer system. With less quality accessible and recommended content. With specific questionable advertising and disruptive censoring. Increased risk usage, and changed group mentality. Strange app, game and system development. Talk about breaking the internet, trust and (h/)cracking democracy. Who would like to study and work for them honestly, without the benefits that comes with selling out or going to (" blackprojects ""offshore"").

"I" mean like look at YouTube's alleged creator's depression syndrome. Now maybe under censoring efforts." Guess many would have payed for the service, of better (helpful) algorithms."

15 hours ago

"But now you also know why "standard" park benches "(generally)" aren't designed to be "ergonomic and/or comfortable."As with "bars, restaurants, social/dating. . . services, gyms, study halls, conventions" to be concluded as "many a things."

14 hours ago

"But soon off the network, "count the days. ." that soon "i", be gone if considered to have been. An annoyance. As if "I" could ever influence such a change in your stable, nature."Relief. . ." Then if reapplying to. ."Vr", he'll *hell "think twice", "improv ""hurts"" too much, over time." But if structure changes, for individuals or collectively continue down that path. . "I" doubt any one will use the services by their own free choice."

14 hours ago

"I guess I would be (?)a couple of millions. . plus by now if it actually delivered on "its progressional promise."With or without some biasness." But (?)socialism of the progressional hippies, (pragmatic optimisers) and tyrannical good is unmatched."From an objective standpoint in regards to a positive outcome."

15 hours ago

"Not a training program, is it possible that life and the exonom7c *exon *economic system isn't built for this type of capitalism since it collapses on a ten year interval, now. Third times, the charm they say."Unless it's covered up."

15 hours ago

I'm just surprised that you can sell plasma??? As far as I know in Belgium, it is more of a volunteering thing...

18 hours ago

I'm so glad that I get the chance to watch you guys, even though I'm in this faaar away trapical land called Brazil! Thanks soo much, Mrs. Internet!
I love you guys, please send a hello to us, the hue hue hue br br br people, and keep not forgetting of being awesome, you're doing an amazing job!

18 hours ago

i love your sweater.

23 hours ago

Patrick rothfuss is who wrote the "collage" question, obviously in Jest- he is my favorite author (sorry john).
I love that my favorite author follows my favorite youtube channel.
(I wonder if Hank knows who he is?)

1 day ago

I really wanted to find a comment about the collage question. I'd really like to know the answer but I'm not sure I care enough to google it. I didn't know he was an author but I think Hank would know.

19 hours ago

Thanks Hank, I really needed to hear that

1 day ago

YES ANTHROPOLOGY YES

1 day ago

why would i buy that poster when i could buy books

1 day ago

Okay personal gripe a'coming. You are forewarned. Obviously Hank is speaking in generalizations and is not working in specificities, and I don't think he's wholly wrong, however as someone who went to college to become a teacher and then became a teacher, I always feel a bit frustrated with the hierarchy of college experience. Going to school to explore potential interests and gather skills while wool gathering is frequently treated as infinitely superior than going with a goal set in connection with a career. E.g. nursing, teaching, marketing, etc. Did I learn many, many things along the way? Yes, yes I did. Did I become a much better, more well rounded, more broadly minded person? Yep! But I respectfully disagree with the concept that college is universally about an individual exploring themselves and their passions. For one thing, it can be a bit exclusionary to those who cannot afford a four-year degree unless they connect that degree to specific career goals to help pay off the massive amount of student loan debt they will undoubtedly acquire. For another, it can also lead to the kind of hierarchy of interests and careers that leads people to say, "Why are you 'just' a teacher? You're so smart."
TL;DR If you're out there, ready to start college with a major picked out and a ppst-grad plan, like I was, it is also okay. If not, also also okay. :) Phew. Lotta typing. Gripe over.

1 day ago

Wait... did yoiu go to Eckerd? My brother went to Eckerd....

1 day ago

mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell

1 day ago

My question made it into the video! No, it didn't get answered, and yes, I had to slow it down to make sure it was mine, but it was in there...for like .1 seconds! Woot!

1 day ago

Journalism is 100% dying. The industries of film-making, writing and music are also dying as well.

1 day ago

I did it! I watched all Vlogbrothers videos!

1 day ago

I'm kinda glad that in my country the whole degree cost about 1/4th of what hank paid for one year 😂😂😂

1 day ago

Can I have your sweatshirt hank?

1 day ago

Whoo win for anthropology!

1 day ago

Gotta say, strongly disagree with your answer to the passion vs. financial security quandary.

Do we really not know what skills are going to be useful in the future? At all? 1000 years into the future, sure, but if we're taking just our lifetimes then there are definitely some safer bets than others.

Chemical engineering, software engineering, computer science, medicine, law, accountancy and finance - these are all very very good bets compared with say music, dance, art or drama. And for obvious reasons.

Do the financially secure thing. Keep the passion as a hobby. Otherwise you'll get into debt that you can't repay and that will turn into regret and resentment for your degree. Plus, you'll probably find that the 'boring' thing is actually not boring at all when you get to really understand it.

1 day ago

Framing a poster definitely elicits, "Who is this classy dude?" Spot on, Hank.

1 day ago

selling blood for college? better to just do porn lol... sadly. Could be a webcam person :P

1 day ago

i want ur shirt.

1 day ago

For the people wondering if its worth going to university for the high cost: maybe consider looking into some european universities? many teach in english and tuition is much lower if not completely free :)

1 day ago

What's up with his shirt

2 days ago

"We are on Earth to solve problems for ourselves and for other people" - This is a really good reminder. I graduated from a fancy university 5 years ago. Since then I've been working in a relatively interesting field & have been doing okay for myself in terms of Adulthood... but I still constantly fret over what I'm doing and what I SHOULD be doing.

For the past couple years I've been trying to figure out what to do next, what will look good on my resume, what will make my college degree worth it, and frankly nothing has felt all that exciting or compelling to me... but I think I've been asking the wrong questions, because the goal isn't to build an enviable career path... if anything, it's about solving meaningful problems and trying to make the world a little better than it was before. That is something I tend to forget in my post-grad haze of doubt and anxiety.

2 days ago

"Your mom goes to college" 😂😂😂😂 gosh you and your brother are 2 of my favorite humans in existence

2 days ago

For the passion vs. practical person- right now the "practical" thing would be to go through an apprenticeship or similar training program, get a job doing that, and go to college for your passion while you're working. We may not know what college degrees are practical, but so far we haven't found a way to replace beauticians, plumbers, auto mechanics, etc. so if you do something like that you're more likely to have a job to fall back on.

2 days ago

Thank you, Hank.

2 days ago

LIFE IS NOT A JOB TRAINING PROGRAM! This can't be said enough. Of course you need to figure out ways to make money (higher education being one way--but not the only way) but it is only a part of life. Try to have an overview. Question every assumption and expectation.

2 days ago

Hate to disagree but, college kinda IS a job training program. You are supposed to be learning stuff that will help you get or create jobs.

2 days ago

I HAVE THAT EXACT POSTER FRAMED IN A FRAMED FROM MICHEALS WOAH

2 days ago

My move in day is a week form today :)

2 days ago

How did I never know that Hank went to Eckerd College?! I went to St. Leo University, which is an equally unknown university in Florida, but they just happen to be in the same conference for volleyball. I have been there so many times and never knew!!

2 days ago

I see college as job training.

2 days ago

My 2 Cents: I've been out of college and working for 9 years. With very few exceptions (things like medical science), what I've seen is that the content of your degree matters not even a tiny bit. What matters is (1) that you have a degree, which is arbitrary and unfair but how it is, and (b) that you have practical experience. That second part is almost always way, way more important to HR and hiring managers. So even if you get a degree in Obscure Interpretive Dance Methods, get an internship in your desired field EVERY SINGLE SUMMER BREAK. That's the real secret magic to employment success. I didn't and struggled to find work (I'm now 31), but I work alongside 20-year-olds who had awesome internships. DO THAT THING.

2 days ago

I have been international students for seven years. It has been rough and good at the same time. Now, I am a senior I'm high school, looking a college. Fun time, ye? I got 1520 in SAT and 4.0 GPA. Still, due to tepid financial situation, I don't know where I will be able to go. Maybe I have to go back to my home country, which I want to avoid. If you are having the same or aleast congenial problem, l wanna know how you are going through this. Peace guys.

2 days ago

You can never be sure what kind of field of study will get you a job in said field but most people can work out that an e.g. Engineering degree is more likely to lead to a job in engineering than sociology to lead to a job within social sciences.

But just cos you didn't stick to the same field after leaving university it doesn't mean your time there wasn't worthwhile both in terms of your career and you personal growth.

When I had a job advising prospective student I always told them "Yes go for something that will let you get a job in a given field, but if you don't like the subject to begin then what's the point?"

2 days ago

I want to move away from my parents when I get to university

2 days ago

Hello how are you my buddy there are some new at home

2 days ago

the nerdfighter logo on the bag looks like a pretzel and i am ok with that

2 days ago

College scholarships are a joke. Take UCSD and Cal State San Marcos, for instance. CSUSM costs only $8,000 a semester. But then UCSD costs $32,000 a semester, which is four times higher than the former. I was practically forced to go to the state college because 1) I'm not black/Asian/a minority and 2) I'm not a female and also 3) I'm not dirt poor. I didn't think taking out a loan of over $32,000 was a good idea because minimum wage isn't even high enough to pay for interest. That was the only factor for me and I see students left and right somehow managing to pay even higher tuitions. Oh and I couldn't get a scholarship because 5) I'm not a genius/I don't have above average intellect/I'm not a prodigy. And if you've read this far, you probably think I'm some white male middle-class millennial, and you'd be correct! Where's the special white man treatment I'm supposed to be getting? Liberals? Oh that's right... It's 2017. The only special treatment is for special snowflakes, apparently. I practically need to be a mexican/black/prodigy/genius/workaholic in order to even qualify for any of the scholarships or dare I say, entitlements. How come poor blackie from the "hood" gets a free ride to institutions like UCLA just for being poor and black, but then white people practically need to do something extreme like start a successful business/win a national science fair/win an international karate tournament/become an Olympic athlete/etc. in order to receive the same free ride to the same institution? Does that sound fair?

2 days ago

love your sweatshirt too

2 days ago

Why buy that poster if you can buy books?

3 days ago